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Continued Petitions

Polypropylene Mesh Medical Devices (PE1517)

Thursday 26 October 2017 Public Petitions Committee About 10:00 Petitions 17 contributions · 5 speakers

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Johann Lamont Lab The Convener · Glasgow
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PE1517, by Elaine Holmes and Olive McIlroy, is on polypropylene mesh medical devices. We last considered this petition on 28 September, when we heard evidence from the petitioners and Dr Wael Agur. The clerk’s note provides a summary of that evidence session, and circulated with it are a number of submissions from mesh survivors. We record our thanks to the people who have taken the time to make those submissions; many are highly personal and were probably difficult to draft.

Members will recall that we agreed to write to the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Sport, Shona Robison, to set out our concerns about the availability of the updated patient information leaflet and the presence of outdated information on Scottish Government and NHS Scotland websites. The cabinet secretary provided a response on Tuesday this week, confirming that the chief medical officer wrote to all health boards in May to request that the literature that is available in hospital and primary care premises is up to date. She advises that NHS inform has reviewed and updated its website and has provided a link to the current version of the stress urinary incontinence patient information leaflet. That link has been added to the Scottish Government’s website.

The cabinet secretary adds that the Scottish Government is working with Healthcare Improvement Scotland to establish a mesh oversight group, which will work with health boards to ensure that the recommendations of the independent review are fully implemented and give further consideration to the patient information that is available.

We have previously agreed to publish a report on the petition and we have secured time for a debate, although we await confirmation of the timing of that debate. The deputy convener and I hope to meet Professor Alison Britton to discuss the issues and concerns that have been raised in evidence to the committee about the review and Professor Britton’s review of the review.

Do members have any thoughts or suggestions for further action on the petition?

Brian Whittle Con South Scotland
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A lot of evidence has been taken on the petition that is very much weighted in one direction. I will not speak for all the members of the committee, but I get the strong sense that we are all driving in one direction. We have secured a debate in the chamber, and I am not sure that I need to hear any more evidence on the topic. I have formed a very clear view on the direction of travel that we are going in.

Rona Mackay SNP Strathkelvin and Bearsden
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The convener and the deputy convener will meet Professor Britton. Will that meeting be soon? Has it been arranged yet?

Johann Lamont Lab The Convener · Glasgow
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It will take place as diaries permit. Professor Britton contacted us and said that she thought that it would be useful for us to meet. That is helpful, because we are wrestling with, and there is no doubt that the petitioners are wrestling with, the purpose of the review. It is clear that the review is not to address the substance of the report, which the patients have been unhappy with; it is about the process and what the Government can learn from that. My concern is that that review might misrepresent to the petitioners what its outcome might be. I do not think that it will revisit the findings or recommendations of the report.

Rona Mackay SNP Strathkelvin and Bearsden
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No. It could be a diversion from the core issue of what has happened to the women and the undoubted tragic effects that the mesh has had on them. I think that the draft report will crystallise something for us. Either way, the issue has to continue and move on.

Johann Lamont Lab The Convener · Glasgow
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It is interesting to note that there was a debate on the issue in Westminster Hall. It strikes me that public awareness is catching up with the individual experiences of those women, and it feels as if something bigger will develop out of this rather than the consideration of individual clinical decisions. We recognise the petitioners’ work in highlighting the matter.

Brian Whittle Con South Scotland
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One of the big issues for me is how the process has allowed the issue to evolve to the stage that it is currently at. The process has taken such a long time—in fact, it has required the petitioners to bring the issue to people’s attention before it has been picked up. I am interested in the initial reporting and how the process has allowed this to happen.

Johann Lamont Lab The Convener · Glasgow
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There is also the fact that, when Alex Neil was Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing, he stepped in and said that there should be a moratorium but the practice still continued.

Rona Mackay SNP Strathkelvin and Bearsden
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That is what I find confusing.

Johann Lamont Lab The Convener · Glasgow
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Given the evidence, it is difficult to see why that moratorium would not have been sustained. However, we are not clinicians, so we do not really know what the other options might be.

We have come back time and again to the issue that the petitioners were not believed. That is clearly an issue for them. It was not believed that the procedure and their subsequent suffering were connected.

Do we agree to meet in private to look at the report ahead of the debate? That would help our consideration.

Members indicated agreement.

Johann Lamont Lab The Convener · Glasgow
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Is there anything else that we can usefully do at this time, apart from recognising where we have got to on the issues that have been highlighted? I recognise that we will have a debate, that we will produce a report, and that there are still issues for the Government in respect of what its authority is. The issue for the Government is really whether it can follow through on the question of the moratorium.

Michelle Ballantyne Con South Scotland
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Yes. There is obviously a worry that this operation is still being carried out. We heard evidence that, in some places, it has ceased through patients being given effective, informed choice, but I am concerned that there are potentially still women out there having this done who are not well informed about what is going on.

Rona Mackay SNP Strathkelvin and Bearsden
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It is worth remembering that it is too late for the women who have been conducting the campaign. They are not doing it for themselves; they are doing it for women in the future—and men as well, I believe. It is important that we keep the issue up there.

Michelle Ballantyne Con South Scotland
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Very much so. We would be failing if we did not make sure that the debate is being heard out there so that people can make informed choices.

Angus MacDonald SNP Falkirk East
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Going back to the moratorium issue, I note that, when Dr Agur was here giving evidence, he explained that the decision to halt mesh procedures ultimately rested with NHS boards and he was unaware whether they had provided any feedback to the cabinet secretary or the Scottish Government about their views on the moratorium. If they have not provided any feedback, I would find that astonishing. We need to get to the bottom of that. If a moratorium is not worth the paper it is written on, what is the point of it?

Michelle Ballantyne Con South Scotland
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Can we write to health boards to ask how many mesh operations are occurring at the moment?

Johann Lamont Lab The Convener · Glasgow
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We might want to reflect on that in considering what other information we want to add to the report. We can go back and establish what evidence we were given in that regard. I think that there was some evidence that enabled us to establish that there was not an absolute moratorium.

As we have already agreed that we will consider a draft report in private session, I suggest that we look to gather any other evidence that will inform that report. I do not mean oral evidence; I mean an up-to-date report from health boards about their understanding of the use of these procedures. In due course, the deputy convener and I will report back on our meeting with Professor Britton. Is that agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

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