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St Margaret of Scotland Hospice (PE1105)

Tuesday 19 February 2008 Public Petitions Committee Petitions 9 contributions · 5 speakers

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Frank McAveety Lab The Convener · Glasgow Shettleston
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I reconvene the meeting and thank members for their patience. The next petition is PE1105, for which I welcome Gil Paterson MSP, who is working for his money this afternoon. The petition is by Marjorie McCance, on behalf of the St Margaret of Scotland Hospice, and calls on the Parliament to urge the Government to guarantee the retention of continuing care provision for patients who require on-going complex medical and nursing care, such as that provided at the 30-bed unit at the hospice, and to investigate whether arrangements for funding palliative care at hospices in the context of Health Department letter HDL(2003)18 are fair and reasonable.A fair amount of correspondence is included in the papers. Some issues are contested quite strongly in the submissions—that is the best euphemism to describe the situation. I am happy to hear members' views on how to handle the petition. At a previous meeting we took oral evidence, so we have a substantial grasp of the issues. I am keen to have a sense of where members would like to take the petition. I ask Gil Paterson to speak first, after which committee members will respond.

Gil Paterson SNP West of Scotland
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Thanks for putting up with me the second time round, convener. Several issues arise. First, what Greater Glasgow Health Board had in mind for St Margaret's way back in 2003 is unclear. St Margaret's is right to dispute hotly that any consultation took place. I have seen no concrete evidence that consultation took place and I concur with the strong language in the response from St Margaret's.St Margaret's has a new facility in place and it is not a million miles away from Blawarthill hospital. I am not convinced that a simple transfer of beds is not involved. I remind the committee that Blawarthill was scheduled for closure and that a campaign was mounted to save that hospital, which succeeded. A new build is planned there, but its construction has not started yet. It is a bit coincidental that the changes are to take place over about the same timespan. Members can call me an old cynic, but that does not add up.I remind the committee that St Margaret's is a hospice. That should be borne in mind before any other services are suggested for it. The hospice is not set up for and does not specialise in mental health problems, although I am sure that some patients will have mental health problems from time to time.There is something of an impasse at present, judging from the responses that have been made. There should be a clean sheet—we should start again at the beginning. Because the health board has not diligently consulted the main institution that would be adversely affected, the hospice is owed a proper sit-down and a meaningful dialogue to ensure that the health board understands exactly what St Margaret's was set up to do and what it does extremely well. Because no consultation took place, there is a duty to do that. Such a dialogue might break the logjam and move matters forward.

Nanette Milne Con North East Scotland
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There is an impasse between the board of St Margaret's and the health board, and we cannot resolve the matter ourselves. Perhaps we should seek ministerial involvement. I hesitate to say that we need to knock some heads together, but perhaps we need to get the two boards to sit down together and have a meaningful discussion. We live in an age when public consultation is considered to be an essential prerequisite to any change. If matters have not been dealt with properly, they need to be looked into. I suggest that we write to the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing asking whether she can intervene.

Rhoda Grant Lab Highlands and Islands
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I agree. I have concerns about the way in which hospices depend on fundraising, which is one of the issues relating to the catchment area of St Margaret's. The service should be provided; it should not be left to people to fundraise for it. Can we flag that up, and find out whether there is a long-term plan to ensure equity of access for people, regardless of where they live and what their hospice catchment area is?

Frank McAveety Lab The Convener · Glasgow Shettleston
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From what I have read, issues around the hospice are being contested at length. I have read a lot of reports about difficult issues over the years, but in this case St Margaret's and the health board perceive the process of events markedly differently. The health board's chief executive has indicated that he is willing to have further discussions. Part of the debate is about what is up for discussion in negotiating terms. It would be helpful to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing to try to pull everything together to get some clarity. I am sure that issues will be contested at the other end, regarding the use of the other hospital in west Glasgow and the retention of facilities. There are no angels in this debate. However, we need to find ways for people to get round the table to sort matters out. Another aspect is equity and the question whether the figure of 50 per cent should be used or whether a different formula should be developed. We cannot resolve the issue instantly, given the recent announcements on budgets and so on, but we can flag the matter for consideration. There will be future spending rounds and policy priorities, which all Governments have the right to pursue. We can ask the Government whether there is a potential long-term shift in that regard. From memory, I think that the argument was that St Margaret's provided a level of service that was not being fully funded. That, however, is a matter for dispute, judging from the correspondence.We need to get cracking and find some solutions. The St Margaret's board and staff will need to address whether the hospice needs to redefine some of what it does. It will also have to be ascertained whether the health board is required to revisit some issues before closing the door. The health secretary's intervention might encourage progress; that is the best way to proceed. In addition, I encourage individual members who might have influence over some of the decision makers to try to persuade them.Are there any other views on the petition?

Robin Harper Green Lothians
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Do any of our witnesses wish to add anything?

Frank McAveety Lab The Convener · Glasgow Shettleston
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Gil, do you have any final comments?

Gil Paterson SNP West of Scotland
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Your suggested approach is reasonable and sound.

Frank McAveety Lab The Convener · Glasgow Shettleston
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As the convener of the Public Petitions Committee, I always seek to find healing words—except when Kenny Gibson is up, but there we are. This is an important issue, and although we cannot easily resolve it, we need to explore the background and the options that are available. Members indicated agreement.

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