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Sports Ombudsman (PE1811)

Thursday 24 September 2020 Public Petitions Committee About 10:30 Petitions 7 contributions · 5 speakers

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Johann Lamont Lab The Convener · Glasgow
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The next new petition for consideration today is PE1811, on an independent sports ombudsman, lodged by Ken White. The petition calls on the Scottish Government to establish an independent sports ombudsman to provide a duty of care to all participants, coaches, officials, support staff, volunteers and clubs, ensuring that all are treated fairly and without prejudice, and to review and arbitrate on disputes with Scottish governing bodies of sport—SGBs. We have received written submissions from the Scottish Government and the petitioner. The Scottish Government notes that all SGBs that receive public funding via sportscotland are required to have open and transparent policies and procedures in place. Sportscotland contracts auditors to undertake external development audits of SGBs in which they invest. Those examine governance, financial management, risk management, planning and reporting, human resource management, policies, communication and information communication technology. The Scottish Government does not note any opinion on the need for an independent sports ombudsman in its submission.

The petitioner agrees with the Scottish Government that everyone must be treated equally and issues should be able to be addressed, but he notes that, if an SGB refuses to discuss anything, the Scottish Government must appoint an independent sports ombudsman.

Sport is an important area. Sport engages a lot of young people and involves a lot of volunteers. There have been controversies in the area; in the past, issues in cycling have been flagged up and recently gymnastics has had issues that have been flagged up at a UK level. We also know from our work that the way in which young footballers were treated historically is a current issue.

The petitioner says that there is an issue; I do not know whether there is or not, but I know that we have a duty of care to young people who engage in sport and to make sure that there is transparency. We also know that the governing bodies do fantastic work in supporting and sustaining their sports and engaging with volunteers, so I am not suggesting that there is a huge issue here that has to be investigated, but we need to have some confidence that there is rigour in that area of work. We maybe need to ask a few wee questions before we dispose of the petition altogether.

I will ask members in turn for their views.

David Torrance SNP Kirkcaldy
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I register an interest: I have met the petitioner and club members about the decisions that the governing body in question has taken against individuals and the club. The club has appealed to it on several occasions, but the responses have been a fob off. Even when I intervened for the club, the response that I got back from the governing body was ridiculous. There is a need for somebody to arbitrate, because when club members or an individual cannot get anywhere with a governing body when they raise concerns with it, and when they are ignored by the hierarchy of that governing body, there are real issues in the sport and the clubs that make up those organisations.

I would like to see Ken White and members of the club come in and give evidence, but I would also want the Government to come in and say why there should not be an independent sports ombudsman, so that those questions could be put to the cabinet secretary or minister, because trying to deal with the governing body on behalf of the club and its members, and the response that I got back, raised my eyebrows. How they have been treated is not right, and that is all I will say on that, convener.

Johann Lamont Lab The Convener · Glasgow
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I should highlight that the role of the committee would not be to arbitrate in that particular case. We can look only at the general issues that could be extrapolated from that. I appreciate that you have flagged up your direct experience, but we would obviously want to look at whether there is a general need for what is proposed, rather than dealing with the individual case that has prompted the petition in the first place.

Tom Mason Con North East Scotland
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I sense that there are frustrations in getting resolutions to various problems from governing bodies, but because there is no higher authority that clubs can go to, those frustrations will continue. It would be a good solution to have a general ombudsman who could resolve issues when the governing bodies of the various sports cannot do so. We should get the Government’s views on having a body that can arbitrate on some of the issues. We will not be able to set that up in the short term, but we should request the Government’s views and hope that it can take something forward.

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Gail Ross SNP Caithness, Sutherland and Ross
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The petitioner makes a good argument, and I heard what David Torrance had to say. We should write to the Scottish Government to ask for its views on whether an ombudsman is needed and, if the Government does not think that it is, where clubs such as the one that David Torrance talked about can go if they do not get a satisfactory response from a governing body. There is definitely a gap, so I am interested in hearing the Scottish Government’s views on that.

Maurice Corry Con West Scotland
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I agree with all the points that my colleagues have made. Obviously, the committee’s experience on youth football has taught us many lessons about issues with governance. I certainly agree that, at this stage, we should write to the Scottish Government to get its views on the petition and the concerns. Some sports do not have a governing body, so there is a gap and something needs to be done about that to allow individuals to raise issues. The issue needs to be addressed quickly. I agree that we should write to the Scottish Government.

Johann Lamont Lab The Convener · Glasgow
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I think that, again, there is consensus on the petition. We recognise that there is a general issue, rather than just the specific one that David Torrance flagged up, and we want clarity from the Scottish Government on its views. We want to know whether the Government thinks that we need an independent sports ombudsman, as has been suggested, and where concerns about a Scottish governing body should be raised if there is no independent sports ombudsman. We are agreed on that, so we will take that action.

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