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Public Bodies (Complainers' Rights) (PE578)

Tuesday 23 September 2003 Justice 2 Committee Petitions 12 contributions · 4 speakers

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Annabel Goldie Con The Convener · West of Scotland
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The remaining agenda item concerns petition PE578. I thank the clerks for the helpful background paper to the petition, which gives members the history of the subject matter of the petition. The options that are available to us—in essence, there are three—are summarised on page 2 of the paper. First, as the Deputy Minister for Justice is due to appear before the committee next week, we could raise the subject with him. The other two options are that we take further advice on the ECHR issue or take no further action.I am inclined to say that, given the proximity of the minister's appearance before us, it could be helpful to use that opportunity to raise the matter with him. Do members agree to that suggestion?

Mike Pringle LD Edinburgh South
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Would that preclude our taking action on the second option? We should take up both options.

Annabel Goldie Con The Convener · West of Scotland
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We could do both. I am not sure what other members feel, but I think that it might be premature to take action on the second option until we hear what the minister has to say on the matter. If the minister had something informative to tell us, that could be sufficient for the committee's purposes. If Mike Pringle agrees, my inclination is to let the minister make his comment before we decide on further action.

Colin Fox SSP Lothians
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I am happy with the convener's suggestion. However, the issue will be one of many that we will take up with the minister when he comes before us. That is said by way of an observation.

Annabel Goldie Con The Convener · West of Scotland
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As a courtesy, we will give the minister notice that we want to raise the issue with him.

Mike Pringle LD Edinburgh South
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Will we also tell the minister about the question that was raised by the Faculty of Advocates?

Karen Whitefield Lab Airdrie and Shotts
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By the time that the minister comes before us, he is likely to have a good idea of what we are going to ask. I suspect that a note will be taken of what was said at today's session—indeed, the minister might have someone at the committee today, taking a note for him. I think that the minister will be well briefed.

Annabel Goldie Con The Convener · West of Scotland
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The clerk is giving us some very helpful advice, which is that we should give the minister notice that we want to have a word with him about the petition. We have always recognised that petition PE578 is not unconnected to the bill that we are scrutinising. However, having listened to the minister, we might decide that the matter is not germane to the bill for our present purposes. If so, we could decide that the petition should be given further consideration on its own merits. I suggest that we leave the matter at that. Let us see what the minister can tell us next week.Members indicated agreement.

Annabel Goldie Con The Convener · West of Scotland
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That is all the business on today's agenda. I thank members very much indeed. It has been a long but fruitful meeting.

Meeting closed at 17:02.

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