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Maternity Models (Remote and Rural Areas) (PE1839)

Wednesday 10 February 2021 Public Petitions Committee About 11:00–11:15 Petitions 6 contributions · 5 speakers

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Johann Lamont Lab The Convener · Glasgow
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PE1839, which was lodged by Maria Aitken on behalf of Caithness Health Action Team, calls on the Scottish Government to ask all relevant health boards to review their maternity model to ensure that it meets the needs of remote and rural communities.

Since the committee’s last consideration of the petition in December 2020, the committee wrote to the Scottish Government to ask when discussions about changes in rural service provision and arrangements for obstetric transfers across Scotland and the development of an in utero transfer risk assessment tool would be concluded.

In its response, the Scottish Government explains that the current priority for health boards is delivery of essential maternity services and managing the impact of Covid-19. Although the development of the in utero transfer risk assessment tool has continued, work on the underpinning protocol has not been able to progress. The Scottish Government is therefore unable to commit to firm timescales for that work, although it is still expected to be a deliverable of its best start programme approach.

The submission also notes the maternity transport group, which has been set up to develop the tools and protocols that are required to ensure that rural and remote staff are supported in their decision to transport pregnant women and that the correct medical expertise is involved.

A late submission has been received from Edward Mountain MSP, in which he suggests that the Scottish Government response would be “cold comfort” to pregnant women who have to be “blue-lighted” to centralised hospitals due to lack of local facilities. He acknowledges that, with the parliamentary session coming to an end, there may be little more that the committee can do with the petition, but he stresses that the problem has not gone away.

Rhoda Grant, who was hoping to attend but is now unable to join us owing to other commitments, has provided the following statement:

“A total of 90 per cent of Caithness women currently give birth in Raigmore hospital, over 100 miles away in Inverness and really that needs to be addressed. There has never been a risk assessment on emergency transfers or indeed on the journeys south that pregnant women face, sometimes in appalling weather conditions.

A focus group feedback on maternity services in November 2019 found the issue of road and possible ambulance transfer was a huge concern that ‘could not be overemphasised’.

There was an overriding opinion that many women were requesting an induction or an elective section in order that they could plan their journey and not have the stress and anxiety of undertaking the journey in an unplanned way while in labour. Transferring women in labour by air to Raigmore and also transferring medical experts into Caithness by air also have their problems, which seem insurmountable at the moment.

The CHAT health campaigners in Caithness, after many years of raising the concerns of parents and their families, are now asking that obstetrics support the community midwife unit based at Caithness general hospital to provide a 21st century experience for maternity services in the far north. This would need to have the equivalent paediatric support, something that appears never to have been considered.

I ask that the committee examine whether obstetric and paediatric support could be put in place at Caithness general hospital and, at the very least, that a risk assessment of emergency transfers takes place.”

This is obviously important and a very serious issue. It is probably quite difficult for somebody who lives in a city to understand or recognise the challenge of healthcare in more remote and rural areas. We have arguments about a hospital being moved a couple of miles in one direction or another, which can cause huge concern, but the scale is much greater in rural and remote areas.

I guess that the challenge always is the gap between providing a local service and ensuring that the staff who are there are sufficiently skilled and experienced to be able to deal with emergencies. That is a balance that the health service has to strike every day. I am interested in how other members feel the petition might be taken forward. There is a case for closing the petition, given what has already been said, but we may want to recognise that these are long-standing issues.

Maurice Corry Con West Scotland
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This is a very important issue, particularly for rural areas. Having been a councillor in Argyll and Bute, and having chaired the health board there, I know full well the problems that we face. For mothers who are expecting babies, it is all about having full confidence in the health services in their local rural area, and knowing that there is a system in place to bring them to a central hub—in the case of Argyll and Bute, Glasgow or the Vale of Leven. Edward Mountain and Rhoda Grant hit the nail on the head in their submissions to the committee with their points of great concern.

The risk assessment tool that the Scottish Government refers to is very important. It is about training in the area, and it is about making sure that there is a plan B and a plan C for mothers if there is a complication. Having a daughter who is about to have a baby in May, I know from discussions with her that she has one or two concerns, but nevertheless I am sure that she will be fine, God willing.

At this stage, the Government has given us the assurance that a number of workstreams relevant to the petitioner are under way. The discussions about any changes that are needed in rural provision are under way, and the in utero transfer risk assessment tool is being developed. In the current situation, I recommend that we close the petition under rule 15.7 of standing orders, on the basis that the Scottish Government has confirmed the points that I have made and put a number of workstreams in place. I still have one or two concerns, but I think that it is important that we make a point of this in the legacy paper for our rural communities. The petitioner is absolutely encouraged to lodge another petition if she feels that there is no progress or little progress being made. I propose that we close the petition at this stage, for the reasons that I have given.

David Torrance SNP Kirkcaldy
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I agree with everything that Maurice Corry has said. I am happy to close the petition under rule 15.7 of standing orders.

Tom Mason Con North East Scotland
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The Government has demonstrated there are some workstreams in place to address the issues that are involved with maternity rural services. Difficulties will always arise with services such as maternity in rural areas. There has to be a consensus as to what can and cannot be provided and people must make their choices accordingly. It does not mean to say that we ignore the situation, but some understanding and consensus has to be reached. Provided that we do so on the understanding that those workstreams and discussions should continue, I think that closing the petition is the best that we can do at this stage.

Gail Ross SNP Caithness, Sutherland and Ross
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I would have liked to have heard back from the petitioners about the evidence that we received the first time around, but we have not had a submission from them. However, they emailed me and I asked a question about the mental health and wellbeing of expectant mothers in the chamber last week. The Minister for Mental Health replied along the same lines as we have heard about the workstreams, the transport group and the work on best start.

There are a couple of things that I would like to point out in our papers. Edward Mountain suggested that pregnant women have to be blue-lighted from Caithness to Raigmore. The stark choice is between pregnant women being blue-lighted and the baby being blue-lighted once it is born if women who are on a red pathway do not go down to Raigmore but give birth in Caithness. That is what happened before, when we had obstetrics with no paediatrics in Caithness general hospital. The very difficult decision was made that it was better to try to get women who were classed as being on a red pathway down to Raigmore, so that they would be able to give birth safely and so that the baby was not taken away from the mother as soon as it was born and put in that distressing situation.

11:15

I acknowledge that neither situation is appropriate or indeed desirable for anybody giving birth. Rhoda Grant comments that she is in discussion with a local councillor about how we take this forward. I think that we should note that only 5 per cent of women who gave birth in the year that was focused on took part in that feedback, so it would be good to get a more rounded view of the people who gave birth in Caithness and in Raigmore.

It is not factual to suggest that putting obstetricians and paediatricians in Caithness general hospital has never been considered. The first report on the change from the obstetrician-led unit to a maternity unit looked at putting paediatricians in. As I said in my evidence at the last discussion, we would have needed a team of paediatricians on rotation on call. You cannot have the paediatricians without all the other stuff that comes with it, apparently—I am just telling you what I have been told by the clinicians, and they are the experts. I would love there to be a unit in Caithness that had obstetricians and paediatricians. If there is any way of getting that done, I will support it absolutely.

The fact that NHS Highland has recently committed to building a new maternity unit in Caithness general hospital means that it is committed to seeing more babies being born locally. I think that we should be making sure that other changes are made, if possible, to ensure that that happens. I would fully support another petition that was more focused on the issues that we are facing in Caithness, whether it is to do with emergency transfers or risk assessments or any of the other actions that are being called for by CHAT.

As a committee, we have had quite a lot back from the Scottish Government and the minister, but certainly I have no doubt at all that MSPs from all parties that are delivered in the next session will be following this up. It is an issue that will not go away, but I think that we can agree about certain things. There is a lack of communication still. We need to go forward together to see whether any of these recommendations from the best start group or the transfer group can be taken forward to ensure that more babies are born locally in Caithness, because that is the aim that everybody aspires to. If we can get that to happen safely, that would be a good thing.

As a committee, I think that we have no choice but to close the petition under rule 15.7, to thank the petitioner and everybody else who has worked on this and to continue to work together to find a solution for everyone.

Johann Lamont Lab The Convener · Glasgow
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This is an interesting area, in which the committee is looking at an issue generally and in terms of policy but there is clearly a very local dimension to it. That is obviously not the remit of the Public Petitions Committee, but it is clearly something that has exercised elected members and certainly we see it across all the parties—or three of them anyway. There has clearly been a huge engagement with the specifics of the issue, and we would hope that it can be addressed in the way that Gail Ross has outlined.

There is agreement that we want to close the petition at this stage. The Scottish Government has identified a number of workstreams that are relevant to the petition and there is an awareness of the issues that the petitioners have highlighted. On that basis, we thank the petitioners for bringing this forward. We are well aware that this is a campaign and an issue that will continue to be discussed in the future. We thank the petitioner for their engagement with us.

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