The fifth current petition is PE1395, by Jan Culík, on targeted funding for lesser-taught languages and cultures at universities. Members have a note by the clerk—paper PPC/S4/12/11/7—and the submissions. This is another very strong petition. I welcome Hugh McMahon to the gallery—thank you for coming along again.The petitioners have requested that we take specific follow-up action. I felt that I could not do that under my own steam and that the whole committee would have to agree to it. I invite views on whether we should follow up on the petitioners’ request.
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Current Petitions
Lesser-taught Languages and Cultures (University Teaching Funding) (PE1395)
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Choose an MSP to read only their contributions- David Stewart Lab 9
- Joe FitzPatrick SNP 4
- Sandra White SNP 2
- Nanette Milne Con 2
- John Wilson SNP 2
- Anne McTaggart Lab 1
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20 contributionsMembers will be aware of the letters that have come in on the petition and the interest that I and others have in it, given that it comes from the University of Glasgow, which is in the area that I represent. The petitioner has asked that we look at the outcomes agreement that has been signed by the university and the Scottish Further and Higher Education Funding Council and get an update on what is to happen. I suggest that we support the petitioners’ request regarding the outcomes agreement.
Is it within our competence to do that?
The clerks advise me that it is within our competence to write to whomever we wish to write. The point that I was making was that the request was made to me. The advice that I have been given by officials—which I think is the correct advice—is that it would be best that a committee decision be made on the matter, and that it is not a decision that I could make in my own right.
Can I clarify what we are being asked to do? I think that we are being asked to take a view on the education provision in an autonomous university, which would be a strange thing for the committee to do.
What we are being asked to do is outlined in paragraph 15 of paper 7.
I would be uncomfortable about the committee making such a recommendation.
I am happy to take further advice and get back to committee members. I am advised that it would be within our competence to act in the way that has been suggested.
My concern is that the request relates to a specific university, whereas the petition is much more general. That is why I asked whether it is within our competence to meet the request.
I think that we could write in more general terms, but still reflect the sentiments of the petitioners. I take the points that members are raising.
I am concerned about the committee taking that view. I think that it might be better to refer the matter to the Education and Culture Committee, which could look at whether that line could be pursued. If we act as has been requested, we will be going further than we should, given the evidence that we have received.
I take on board the concerns that members have expressed, but the committee has checked with the clerks that it is within our competence to write to the SFC. We would not be asking it to take specific action; we would be making a request. I know that Joe FitzPatrick is filling in for Mark McDonald, but the threat to Slavonic studies is a huge issue, not just in the University of Glasgow, although that is where the petition comes from. Courses in Slavonic studies and languages will be lost. It is not a tiny issue. I understand where Joe FitzPatrick is coming from, but the teaching of Slavonic studies as a whole will be affected, because such courses will be lost. Glasgow is the only place outwith London where such courses are available. If we lose those courses, anyone who wants to do Slavonic studies would have to go to London—they would not be able to do it in Scotland.
We need to act on this issue, as it has been raised as a huge concern not just by constituents in Glasgow but with the cross-party group on Poland. Moreover, having spoken to the West of Scotland Regional Equality Council, which runs a project in the department, I know that it, too, is concerned that, as Sandra White suggested, it might well have to go to London if course provision is done away with. The relevant population is very concerned about the matter.
At one level, the petition is not about one particular university, but about the strategic importance of lesser-taught languages. That is the key issue that we are trying to develop. I do not know whether Joe FitzPatrick has followed all our meetings, but we have received very good evidence on the matter.
Obviously I have not been here for all the evidence sessions, but I am concerned about suggesting that the outcomes agreement contain specific reference to one topic and feel that we might be almost trying to direct an autonomous educational institution to treat it differently from everything else. I understand the concerns that have been expressed and the importance of the issue, but I wonder whether there is a different way of addressing the situation or whether we should ask the Education and Culture Committee to take a wider look. I simply think that we are taking a very narrow approach. I know that the petition refers to one particular subject but I am not sure that we should recommend that it be specifically covered in the outcomes agreement.
While acknowledging Joe FitzPatrick’s point about our recommending that the outcomes agreement specify that Glasgow University should maintain Slavonic studies, I wonder whether we should write to the funding council and the university itself to ask whether Slavonic studies has been specifically included in the outcomes agreement between both—and if not, why not—and what other option or provision is available to students in Scotland who wish to study the subject. We would not be directing the university or the funding council, but simply asking the questions.
We will also be asking in general about Czech, Polish, Russian and Slavonic studies.
That is right.
That sounds like a very useful compromise. Do members agree with that approach?Members indicated agreement.
Thank you again, Mr Wilson.
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