Parliament Workbench

Petition · PE01445 · Session 4

Stop the wind farm at Nathro

Inadmissible Submitted 30 Jul 2012 Environment & Energy
Signatures
0
279 online signatures with a country
Comments
72
Considered
1 meeting
in the Official Report

What it asks

Calling on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to refuse the planning application for the proposed Nathro Hill Wind Farm by Eurowind to build seventeen 135 metre high turbines in the Angus Glens to ensure that this beautiful and iconic part of Scotland remains unspoiled.

What the petitioner did first

We have written to Angus Council and to the Energy Consents / Deployment Case Officer at the Scottish Government. Thus far we have not received a response.
We have approached two councillors from Angus Council and requested that they join us on our protest walk on 12th August. Cllr Evans has agreed to come and we are awaiting a response from Cllr Myles.
I formed SWAN Action Group together with a small group of people who live in and around the Angus Glens in response to the Eurowind proposal to build a wind farm in Glen Lethnot known as Nathro Hill.
We have been campaigning against the wind farm by distributing leaflets to local residents, writing to the press and the authorities and to other local estates.
We have a website at www.swanag.org.uk and a facebook page at www.facebook.com/swanag.
We will be having a protest walk to Peat Hill in Glen Lethnot on the site of the proposed turbines on Sunday 12th August at 11:00.
We are hosting a public meeting at Aberlemno Village Hall on Thursday 16th August at 19:30.
We will also be making representations at the Brechin Community Council and the Inveresk Community Council.
We are submitting an objection to the formal consultation together with two local estates, Hunthill and Glenogil both of which march with Nathro Estate and both of whom employ a large number of people such as gamekeepers and shepherds, unlike Nathro who have no employees and who let their hill ground for farming and sporting purposes.

Where it was considered

Official Report
  1. 2 Oct 2012
    1 mention

Signatures by country

279 online signatures
  1. Scotland153 54.8%
  2. England63 22.6%
  3. United Kingdom52 18.6%
  4. United States3 1.1%
  5. Northern Ireland2 0.7%
  6. Wales2 0.7%
  7. China1 0.4%
  8. United Arab Emirates1 0.4%
  9. Denmark1 0.4%
  10. France1 0.4%

Comments

72 comments, oldest first
72 comments · showing 1–50
  1. Derek R Powell 7 Aug 2012
    Dumping industrial turbines of this magnitude on the edge of Strathmore and the Grampians would be an act of unbelievable vandalism, destroying this unique landscape for ever for which the only winners are landowners and opportunists.
  2. Sue Smyth 7 Aug 2012
    It cannot be possible that ANYONE could be so misguided as to consider spoiling such a beautiful glen with such enormous monstrosities which are not even proven to be effective
  3. Terry Greig 7 Aug 2012
    It's unbelievable that anyone would grant planning permission for these huge turbines plus thousands of tons of concrete to be poured on to these beautiful glens. I would hope that sense prevails and these beautiful glens are preserved for future generations.
  4. FIONA DOW 7 Aug 2012
    I feel that if there is no legislation regarding where and how many of these windfarms are placed, Scotland will be ruined for ever.
  5. Patricia Burr 7 Aug 2012
    These wind turbines to be placed in the most prominent position will totally desecrate the wild and beautiful natural landscape of the glens. People come from all over the world to enjoy just this scenery. The turbines produce very little benefit and ruin the landscape. I do not understand how Scotland, who rely so much on tourism, could wish to build this wind farm.
  6. Catherine Lewis 7 Aug 2012
    Wind farms are an ugly and expensive abomination, often constructed in places of natural beauty: allowed to despoil them with ugliness and noise on the spurious "green" excuse. Undemocratic and unforgivable.
  7. Gordon Adam 7 Aug 2012
    This will be catastrophic for Angus's landscape. Get a grip.
  8. Gordon Adam 7 Aug 2012
    This will be catastrophic for Angus's landscape. Get a grip.
  9. Barrie Cooper 7 Aug 2012
    How can this application be seriously considered? It will spoil one of the most neautiful parts of Scotland. How is that 'green'?
  10. Jacquie Steel 7 Aug 2012
    When will these people realise that things are a waste of money
    - they are inefficient, they ruin the countryside and if we are not careful, our Scottish countryside will be desecrated for years to come. Answer this question why are Denmark and Germany closing their Windfarms down? Answer: they are financially unviable. Politicians take note
    - we are becoming more vocal and we object most vociferously!! Not in My Back Yard!
  11. Diana Bignell 7 Aug 2012
    It would be sad for the residents of such a beautiful area to have the surrounding countryside ruined by unsightly wind turbines and of no benefit to the tourism industry of the area which is one of its main attractions.
  12. Donald Rice 7 Aug 2012
    Another windfarm, another cash bonanza for a few landowners desecrating the birthrights of the rest of us. I dare the people putting this up to go and live under a wind turbine for a week and see what it's like.
  13. g.a.robertson 7 Aug 2012
    the area proposed for this windfarm is totally unspoiled by any commercial entity for in excess of 5000 years and I firmly believe that this particular area must be left as nature intended for the natural enjoyment of everybody and for our future and our childrens future and their childrens future
  14. Jane Brewster 8 Aug 2012
    This application, would be killing the the golden goose of Scotlands iconic Landscape and Heritage,setting a precedent for development of the Angus Glens.
    It is ironic that on the deadline date to submit objections the heather on this site will be coming in to bloom!
    If wind energy for Scotland is the right way for our economy and communities, why have Scottish ministers ignored the request to examine the impact of built sites ? At some turbine sites local residents are suffering problems from noise issues, properties lie empty directly due to the planning conditions imposed to protect or developers have had to buyout homes from those who are directly impacted. Windland clearances!
    The value of international tourists, staycations and recreational amenity are being ignored.
    Government are passing applications with no regard to human rights or EU environmental legislations,Local Authority or community comment.

    The wind power issue will be greater scandal than MPs expenses or the banking crisis when our energy gap kicks in.
    Public money is being squandered on an ill thought out policy,promoted by career environmentalists and misguided politicians.
    Local authorities and consultees are swamped by applications and cannot process them properly due to the quality of the information submitted by developers and the overwhelming amount of applications being submitted.
    We are privileged to live in a country with a wealth of natural resources, these are finite so should be used prudently.
    Tribute must be paid to those landowners who refuse to be enticed by the lucrative consumer sourced subsidies, who have greater regard for their duty as stewarts of our countryside, a genuine interest in their local community and the heritage for future generations.
    This issue is about generating money for the few and 'seen to be green' politics it is riding roughshod over local democracy,our landscape and our heritage.
  15. Tara Douglas-Home 8 Aug 2012
    The business case for land based windfarms is far from assured and is only made possible through massive subsidy by the taxpayer. In addition to that the damage done to the local environment and wildlife is becoming more and more apparent.
  16. David Forsyth 8 Aug 2012
    In this part of Scotland there is no way to minimise the visual impact of these turbines. They will simply stand out as a stark testament to our disregard for the simple beauty of the land. The efficiency of these turbines is insufficient to warrant such an exchange of vista. And we are all aware that should this wind farm be allowed others will follow and the loss of peace and land will be just too great.
  17. Noel Lamb 8 Aug 2012
    Let us not destroy our wonderful countryside with more of these unsightly wind farms.
  18. Jan Pester 8 Aug 2012
    Wind turbines are not yet efficient enough to justify this. Cant they be put offshore where at least they impact alot fewer people? Offshore wind energy technology is improving rapidly I believe.
  19. Dr King 8 Aug 2012
    I despair at the apparent disregard some humans have for their neighbours, but often they are absent landlords. Councils ought to have regard for this fact and it should count against the development. The East coast of Scotland is a unique area where any turbine will stand out like sore thumb. We have to have regard for farmers who use the electricity and live nearby if their turbines are a maximum of 37 metres and stand near buildings
  20. Alexandra Richards 8 Aug 2012
    Whilst the developers and the land owners reap the financial rewards of these huge constructions, those residents who live nearby have to suffer loss in value of their home, their most valuable asset. This is not a planning condition, but should be. However, impact on their amenity is a planning condition and these will indeed have an enormously lengthy detrimental impact on the local amenity from construction through to turbines operating, for the next 25 years.......
  21. FB 8 Aug 2012
    I used to be a staunch supporter of SNP
    - but because of the desecration of my beloved country by windfarms, I am totally against any political party who supports these.
  22. NEIL GUNN 8 Aug 2012
    INLAND WIND FARMS SHOULD BE BANNED EVERYWHERE AS THEY PRODUCE A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY AND SPOIL THE COUNTRYSIDE
  23. Duncan Tannahill 8 Aug 2012
    The proliferation of wind farms must be stopped until a full evaluation is completed and their economic and environmental impacts are fully understood.
  24. Louise Gardner 8 Aug 2012
    What happens after 20years when the maintenance contracts run out on these costly turbines, we will have a countryside littered with rusting dangerous monsters that farmers and landowners will be unwilling and unable to maintain.
  25. david gouck 8 Aug 2012
    I lived in Lethnot for 30 years and left for other chages to the glen is this more greed to spoil a part of scoland loved by so many
  26. William Bowie 8 Aug 2012
    Wind at more than 10% of total demand will result in
    imbalance in the grid and 'brown outs' when the wind does not blow. It should be noted that UK wind turbines produce less than 10% of their rated power about a third of the time. Without 'backup' from conventional power plants the lights will go out.
  27. Anne Lynch 8 Aug 2012
    Unfortunately, comments are just being read by people objecting to windfarms for various reasons. Attempting to reach people who think there is not point in objecting because 'we are going to get them anyway', is very hard. By the time it is realised how serious the situation is regarding the impact on our wildlife, landscape and our pockets, it will be too late.
  28. Philip Johnston 9 Aug 2012
    Let's stop kidding ourselves wind power is inefficient
    - also it's ugly,invasive and requires too much land which is best left to nature's uses.
  29. JEAN MACLEOD 9 Aug 2012
    Is the Scottish nation to be involved in a constant battle to hold on to its natural heritage? Why is this Scottish Government who up-hold all that IS Scottish, destroying the country to fill an energy quota that is not only destructive but unsustainable?
  30. Jacky Hatchwell 10 Aug 2012
    We seem to pay a lot of money for little reward with wind farms The money going from our taxes to overseas companies with little interest in our country side.
  31. Ian Murray 10 Aug 2012
    Wind power is a bit of fool's paradise. Tidal power is more efficient and sustainable...and a whole heap less ugly. Though don't expect the Scottish Government to listen to sense.
  32. Adrian Dargue 10 Aug 2012
    You'd need a wind farm two miles deep encircling the whole of the UK to generate 10 to 15% of the UK's power needs. These things are not the answer to our power needs, these eyesores can only harm Scotland's tourist industry
  33. S 11 Aug 2012
    It is time to focus on sustainable rather than renewable energy. Sustainable energy means that the new generator completely and effectively replaces the legacy generator whilst causing less harm when both are calculated using lifecycle accounting rules.

    Wind is renewable but not sustainable, it must be fully backed up by traditional generators thereby the infrastructure for wind is unnecessary duplication. When considering the additional infrastructure and environmental harm from lifecycle accounting the CO2 output increases with every turbine constructed, thereby exacerbating the greenhouse gas emission situation. Meantime consumers are forced to pay for this folly driving increasing numbers of households into fuel poverty.

    Do we truly want tourists to believe that the flower of Scotland is the wind turbine or do we want to retain our tourist industry, health, ecology and credibility and lead the way with a sustainable energy policy?

    Scotland has an opportunity to replace legacy generators with clean burning natural gas linked ot carbon capture and storage using our North Sea Oil and Gas fields and expertise. This not only buys us time to mature Sustainable Renewables such as deepwater turbines and 4th generation bio-fuels, but also reinforces our reputation for innovation and cutting edge technology. Isn't it time to invest in something worthwhile and which will strengthen our economy rather than continuing to throw good money after bad on a technology that has been proven to fail, is desecrating our landscapes, ecology, residential amenity and tourist industry, is globally harmful when considering the concrete and rare earths involved and will leave us completely exposed to a monopoly market in rare earths (China) thereby increasing the likelihood of power outages and price fluctuations?
  34. John Milne 12 Aug 2012
    A shame that this windfarm is being considered for the beautiful Angus Glens. Wind power could never provide base load needs or peak requirements.
  35. Kim Miller 12 Aug 2012
    The Angus Glens are unique and one of the very few assets we have, hereabouts. Take away their remoteness and their beauty and you take away their whole purpose. It is a no brainer
    - do not consider it. Although, it would be in keeping with the Trams in Edinburgh, the new Forth Crossing and even the cost of Parliament scandal. When it comes to the big ones rest assured...
  36. Penelope Gregory 13 Aug 2012
    The Angus Council agreed that turbines in this area would conflict with the historic and deeply rural character of the landscape. If these proposed turbines are erected they will be seen by everyone driving along the A90 on their way to the historic sites of the Caterhuns, the Standing Stones at Aberlemno, the castles of Glamis and Edzell, Brechin Cathedral and Round Tower etc. The foothills and glens of Angus are famous for their beauty. Surely this cannot be destroyed when there must be many other far less obtrusive locations.
  37. George Herraghty 13 Aug 2012
    Has no one noticed the 14,000 abandoned turbines, rusting in the Californian desert? It is an outdated, discredited, grossly inefficient technology. I object to our extortionate energy bills being used to subsidise foreign multinationals, and millionaire landowners to trash the finest landscapes in Western Europe. What sort of green policy actually destroys the very environment it is supposed to protect? Let's have intelligent renewables that deliver reliable baseload energy. All the Firths between Inverness and Tongue have bridges or causeways, yet NOT ONE has a tidal barrier to provide virtually limitless, constant power.
  38. Alan Smail 15 Aug 2012
    To line this ridge top with turbines would be an act of scenic vulgarity. The view of the Angus Hills as seen from the A90 between Forfar and Brechin is one of the iconic views of Scotland.
  39. Katherine Gunn 16 Aug 2012
    Wind Farms are a creeping blot on the beautiful landscape of Scotland- we are an island -tidal power is the way forward.
  40. James Cassidy 17 Aug 2012
    Bearing in mind part 1 of the Scottish Governments own planning policy, Scotland's landscape and natural heritage are internationally renowned and important, underpinning significant industries such as the food, drink and tourism industries, and are a key component of the high environmental quality which makes Scotland an attractive place in which to live, do business and invest.
    This development would significantly detract from the landscape in its natural form, and would have an effect on tourism, hillwalking, angling and cycling amongst others. Likewise it fails to make the area an attractive place to live and could deter investment, particularly in those areas previously mentioned.
  41. Suzanne Philipps 17 Aug 2012
    Terrestrial wind farms are inefficient, because the wind is spasmodic and the national grid has to give input in addition. Much better are offshore wind farms. The wind is mostly constant and marine life (including fish stocks) are protected and thrive.
  42. Marion Ross 17 Aug 2012
    It's about time you started listening to the people.
    We have less control over our local areas that before devolution. The Scottish Government is acting like a dictator!
  43. James Hirst 20 Aug 2012
    Why destroy the natural beauty of Glen Lethot?
  44. MICHAEL FENTON 20 Aug 2012
    I am saddened that this beautiful area which exemplifies what Scotland is known to look like is now under threat of destruction for monetary reasons, and to fulfill a futile renewable energy quota by 2012. If this is allowed to happen, we will only have memories of the tranquil environment that was once ours.
  45. Melanie Jaffrey 21 Aug 2012
    There are alternatives to these hiddious structures look into them before its too late. They are destroying everything about Scotland and will have a serious impact on tourism. They are killing our birds and bats, they are noisey and not all that efficient.
  46. Peter Phillips 21 Aug 2012
    The proposed wind factory at Nathro does not meet the Scottish Government Planning Policy, it will affect both the Angus Glens and the vale of Strathmore and is detrimental to the tourist industry in Angus.
  47. Carole Tyson 22 Aug 2012
    I hadn't realised till recently that this beautiful glen was facing the prospect of a totally inappropriate wind farm and I can't say how dismayed I feel. I've been coming here for years, on and off, and have always found it a real haven of tranquility and beauty. The planned development is out of scale with the environment and is likely to detract significantly from the desirability of the Angus glens as a tourist destination and to have no long-term economic benefit to the local population, who will also be deprived of much of what makes it such an attractive place to live. I wish I could believe that the Scottish Government was not going to ride roughshod over any objections but, given recent planning priority statements,I am very much afraid that it will try to do just that.
  48. Alan Ruxton 24 Aug 2012
    A Windfarm on this site would totally ruin the look of the area and potentially compromise any tourisim business ,which this area needs badly .As well as the fact that it is miles away from any market needing the electricity,supposing that they would generate enough to warrant all the effort any way.
  49. Fiona Cameron 27 Aug 2012
    Having lived with the construction of Griffin windfarm and now Calliacher, and watched the devastation of our local landscape, I cannot urge the Scottish government to begin to think clearly about the disastrous impact these windfarms are having on the land for which you are meant to be custodians.
  50. Susie Bigland 27 Aug 2012
    It will be a tragic blight on the landscape, with little practical benefit.